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How to write in counterpoint for a sonata?
So yeah, just as it sounds like, I will be composing a sonata. It will be in the style of Beethoven. The first movement will be slow and quiet mostly. Of course I will be using dissonance such as a diminished 7th just like Beethoven did in his sonatas.

And there are several ways I could add drama to the sonata(which is crucial for a Beethoven style sonata) besides dissonance. Here they are:

Crescendo and diminuendo
Change in rhythm but tempo kept the same
Change in tempo
Change of key
Counterpoint

Now I was thinking of maybe doing some counterpoint in the development of the first movement. Like having the development be a fugetto(little fugue) for example. But counterpoint is so rarely used these days in compositions. It sort of died off when Bach died.

Of all the pieces I have heard, most pieces using counterpoint are by Bach. I mean Beethoven did compose a fugue for a string quartet and there have been instances when I heard a fugatto in 1 of Mozart's pieces but mostly, it was Bach who composed famous pieces using counterpoint.

I believe counterpoint needs a revival. It's so amazing how much you can get out of a single melody. And even quite a few simpler pieces by Bach use counterpoint. In counterpoint you can have just 2 melodic lines or you can have 4 or more.

But if I want to write a fugue, even if it is just a fugetto for a sonata, how would I go about doing that on just 2 staves? I don't know of any fugues with just 2 melodic lines(doesn't mean that couldn't be possible though). I think 1 of the reasons it was easy for Bach to write fugues is that a lot of them he composed for the organ which uses 3 staves(and at the time was 2 keyboards + foot pedals, some modern organs have way more than just 2 keyboards). I only have a piano and have rarely seen an organ in person. So I only have 2 staves to work with, 1 for the right hand and the other for the left hand. I'm probably going to have to use the sustain pedal in my sonata composition, but especially in the fugetto.

But how would I write in counterpoint? It seems so complicated even though you are using simple melodies to make a complicated piece.


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Counterpoint is alive and well! We use it every time we make a decision about similar and contrary motion between a melody and a bass line, every time we echo a fragment of melody in an accompaniment.

But yes, the monumental contrapuntal 'set pieces' are a feature of the Baroque style. And if you look at the scores, you'll find that two staves were plenty for 3, 4, even 5-part counterpoint playable by two hands on a keyboard.

Here's the beginning of Fugue 1 from 'The 48'.

But I wouldn't start there. Look at the 2 and 3-part Inventions. Plenty of counterpoint, without the formal requirements of a fugue.

Plenty more study material available at IMSLP Enjoy!

(Note, however, that if you're attempting a Beethoven pastiche, although counterpoint certainly IS characteristic, going into a full-blown fugue isn't really.)


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