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#V or bVI borrowed chord?
I'm trying to analyze a pop punk song that sounds pretty interesting.

The song starts on an E chord, with a very major sounding riff that, to my ear, immediately puts the song in the key of E major. But as soon as it gives your ear time to adapt to the key you've just identified, it hits you with a C chord that's outside the key. I love that sound and would like to learn the theory behind it so I can add it to my arsenal.

The progression for the intro is E C C#m A. I know that E = I, C#m = vi and A = IV, but I don't know how to notate the C chord in this context. Is it a #V ? A bVI? A "flat submediant"? What do you call that chord? Can you reference any materials where I can learn more about it?


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Please don't reference specific songs on this site!! It's a recipe for getting the question closed.

The theory is simple. The C chord is 'borrowed' from the parallel key of Em. It's a common ploy, and is explained in theory by a song's key being allowed to stray into the major if it's minor and vice versa. One of the chords from the Em key list is C.

In terms of notation, bVI sounds about right, since it's in reference to the key of E major.


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The chord progression in question is E - C - C?m - A. Granting that this is in the key of E, I am not convinced that it is always useful to talk about a chord such as C here being borrowed from another key.

Consider that the notes of an Emaj triad are E - G? - B, and the notes of a Cmaj triad are C - E - G. Both chords share an E, and the other two notes are a half-step apart. But notice that the G? moves down a half-step, and the B moves up a half-step in the transition from Emaj to Cmaj. This contrary motion can be highlighted by playing the Emaj in root position, and the Cmaj in first inversion. For example:

Emaj Cmaj C?min Amaj
E ----------------------------------------------
B ------5-----5-----5-----5---------------------
G ------4-----5-----6-----6---------------------
D ------6-----5-----6-----7---------------------
A ------7-----7-----7-----7---------------------
E ----------------------------------------------

Here only the two inner voices move, with contrary motion in the change from Emaj to Cmaj. However you justify using the non-diatonic chord here, in my opinion it is satisfying because of this potential for contrary motion.

I would call this progression a I - ?VI - vi - IV, considering the ?VI chord to be a passing chord. But I wouldn't worry about where this chord may be borrowed from unless it is borrowed from a key that is visited by the tune.


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It's bVI, a common chromatic chord. You don't really need to worry about where it might be 'borrowed' from. Describing it in those terms doesn't help our understanding, unless it's being used as a gateway into another key (when the chord being 'in common' to the two keys might be a more useful concept).


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Based on the jazz notion of approach chords, the C-C#m chord progression actually looks more like a weird VII/vi - vi to me. The C chord then has more of a secondary dominant function.


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