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Hoots : How does a "Talk-Box" differ from a Vocoder? Both the Talk-Box and Vocoder combine instrumental sounds with vocal sounds to create a Singing Instrument (or a more precisely-controlled Singer). How are they different, beyond - freshhoot.com

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How does a "Talk-Box" differ from a Vocoder?
Both the Talk-Box and Vocoder combine instrumental sounds with vocal sounds to create a Singing Instrument (or a more precisely-controlled Singer). How are they different, beyond "One's for guitar and the other's a synthesizer"?

The question was inspired by this video after 4:30 where he appears to use a vocoder in what seems like more of a "Talk-Box" style than we're used to. It's adding voice-like inflections to a more-or-less instrumental tone.


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Vocoders were originally invented as a way to transmit speech over low-capacity transmission media.

To encode:

Start with speech as an electronic signal (e.g. from a microphone)
Put the signal through a multi-band filter, getting some number of new signals, each covering a different frequency range.
Pass each of these frequency bands through an envelope tracker. This follows the volume of the signal, and converts it into a a 'volume control' signal for each band.
Transmit this set of 'volume controls'

To decode:

Start with a continuous tone containing a rich set of frequencies - this is called the carrier tone.
Modulate filters on this tone, using the 'volume controls' created by the encoder

By reducing speech to a slowly changing series of numbers, telecoms engineers were able to fit more speech into a scarce radio channel, submarine channel, etc.

If the carrier tone is the output of a musical instrument, you get the familiar musical effect of a 'talking synthesiser'. However there's nothing to say that the carrier signal has to come from a synthesiser. You could play a guitar into a vocoder decoder, and it would be likely to work.

A voice box is a much simpler arrangement, that works with the vibration of air, and the amps and microphones rock musicians are familiar with. An instrument is plugged into a small amplifier/speaker. A plastic tube is mounted in front of that speaker. The tube carries the sound from the speaker to the performer's mouth, where the end is gripped in his teeth. The sound resonates in the performer's mouth just like speech does, and the performer shapes the sound by shaping his mouth. By 'singing' into a microphone, the shaped sound is amplified.

There is no reason that a voice box has to be used with a guitar. Any instrument capable of driving the small amplifier could be used.


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Based on usage by some of the biggies in the pop music industry, Talkbox appears to be leading. From rock and roll legends to pop artists, everyone seems to be a fan of Talkbox.

On the other hand, Vocoders has a separate fan base. If we look back at the history of the pop music industry, Vocoders has aided musicians in creating great tracks. Rock music is powerful with some intense music, and Vocoder helps create a balance between voice and sound to emit a record that is pleasing to ears.


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