Why doesn't ADP accurately withhold state and federal income tax (even if W4 is correct)?
Back in 2014 and 2015, I had W-4 on file with my employer where I claimed only one exemption (myself).
However, I always ended up owing federal tax and getting CA state refund. Last year I also ended up incurring capital loss, but still the same situation - CA state tax is overpaid, but federal tax is underpaid.
Also, today I found out from one of my coworkers that he has the same issue and this year he ended up paying penalty for underestimating his federal taxes.
Is this a bug in ADP? Are they supposed to withhold the right amount of taxes, if my only income is from my Employer? Would they swallow underestimated tax penalty, if I filed W4 correctly, but they withheld less?
P.S.
I am single and don't have any dependents.
No one else can claim me as dependent.
Besides base salary I also receive employer stock (ESPP, RSU, NSO). However, employer withholds taxes for these stock transactions through my broker (I see them broken down on my W2). Also, I do "same day sale" so there is no capital gain.
I have been subject to Alternative Minimum Tax.
This year I have also instructed my employer to withhold extra federal income tax and also updated my W4 to have 0 exemptions.
Update: I am not blaming ADP for anything right now because I don't have to pay penalty.
3 Comments
Sorted by latest first Latest Oldest Best
I see several interesting statement in your question.
A. my only income is from my Employer
B. I also receive employer stock (ESPP, RSU, NSO). However, employer withholds taxes for these stock transactions through my broker (I see them broken down on my W2).
C. I have been subject to Alternative Minimum Tax.
A implies a simple tax return. B and C tell the opposite story. In fact if B is not done correctly The amount withheld due to payroll may be perfect but the under withholding could be due to the ESPP's, RSUs and NSOs.
The AMT can throw everything else out the window.
If a person has a very simple tax situation: Income doesn't change a lot from paycheck to paycheck; they take the standard deduction; the number of exemptions equals the number of people in the family. Then the withholding is very close to perfect.
The role of the exemptions on the W-4 is to compensate for situations that go above the standard deduction. The role of extra withholding is when the situation requires more withholding due to situations that will bring in extra income or if the AMT is involved.
ADP does not know your full tax situation and while the standard exemption system (actually designed by the IRS not ADP) works fairly well for most people it is an approximation. This system is designed so most people will end up with a small refund while some people will end up owing small amounts. So, while it is possible that ADP has messed up the calculations it is unlikely this is the cause. The most likely cause is that approximation ends ups making you pay less tax during the year than you actually owe.
A few people like your friend may end up owing large amounts due to various circumstances. It is always your responsibility to make sure you pay enough tax throughout the year. While this technically means that you need to do your taxes every quarter during the year to make sure you pay the correct tax during the year, for most people this ends up being unnecessary as the approximation works fine. It is possible the exemption system failed your friend, but much more commonly people owe penalties because they put the wrong number of exemptions or had other side income.
On a related note, most people in finance would argue that your situation where you owe some money at tax time, but not so much that you have to pay a penalty, is actually the best way to go. Getting a tax refund actually means you paid more tax than you needed to. This is similar to giving an interest-free loan to the government.
Surprised no one has suggested this, but for one with State Refund and AMT situation, it could be that last year state refund (i.e. what you overpaid in State Taxes last year) may end up fully (and incorrectly, because you did not receive any benefit that year) recognized as income this year. Refer to this IRC:
(a) Deductions Gross income does not include income attributable to
the recovery during the taxable year of any amount deducted in any
prior taxable year to the extent such amount did not reduce the amount
of tax imposed by this chapter.
Or this article that explains Tax Benefit Rule under "Taxpayer pays the alternative minimum tax in year 1." paragraph.
Terms of Use Privacy policy Contact About Cancellation policy © freshhoot.com2026 All Rights reserved.