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Hoots : Convert Hindustani Bansuri Notes to Carnatic Venu Notes I plan to use this video to further learn "Tum Hi Ho" on Bansuri However, the notes sequences are entirely different Ascending is Sa Re2 Ga2 Ma1 Pa Da1 Ni2 Sa Descending - freshhoot.com

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Convert Hindustani Bansuri Notes to Carnatic Venu Notes
I plan to use this video to further learn "Tum Hi Ho" on Bansuri

However, the notes sequences are entirely different

Ascending is
Sa Re2 Ga2 Ma1 Pa Da1 Ni2 Sa

Descending is

Sa' Ni2 Da1 Pa Ma1 Ga2 Re2 Sa

Where do I even find information on how to convert these notes?

And what is 1 or 2 after the note? What does it signify?

Please help. The svara sounds so beautiful, I wish to replicate on Bansuri (as well as play "Tum Hi Ho" properly)


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The other answer by @SoulEater asserts that the numbers refer to the octave of the note. This is incorrect, so I am adding my own answer here to address the OP's question.

The sapta swar?s, namely Sa, Ri (or Re), Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha and Ni, are employed in a 12-note system in Hindustani music and in a 16-note system in Carnatic system.

In Hindustani music, what this means is the following: Sa and Pa are "fixed" notes, and there are two positions for each of Re, Ga, Ma, Dha and Ni. These give rise to the 2 + 2x5 = 12 notes in the Hindustani system.

In Carnatic music, what this means is the following: Sa and Pa are "fixed" notes, and there are three positions for each of Ri, Ga, Dha and Ni, and two positions for Ma. These give rise to the 2 + 3x4 + 2 = 16 notes in the Carnatic system.

Now, the 12 notes in the Hindustani system are given the following names (listed in increasing order of the pitch):

Sa
Komal Re
Shuddha Re
Komal Ga
Shuddha Ga
Shuddha Ma
Tivra Ma
Pa
Komal Dha
Shuddha Dha
Komal Ni
Shuddha Ni

(It might help to "visualise" the positions of these swar?s if you note that they correspond to the movable Do Re Mi in Western music, as mentioned in @AlbrechtH ügli's answer to this question of yours: Equivalency between Indian Classical Saptak and Western Notes.)

An alternative way to notate these 12 positions is to simply number the different positions of Re, Ga, Ma, Dha and Ni, as follows:

S
R1
R2
G1
G2
M1
M2
P
D1
D2
N1
N2

So, for example, Bilawal Thaat (corresponding to the r?gam Sankar?bharanam in Carnatic music, or to the major scale in Western classical music), uses the swar?s

S, R2, G2, M1, P, D2 and N2

Similarly, in Carnatic music, we give names to each of the 16 notes, and we also refer to them in short by adding numbers to the swar?s as before. In increasing order of pitch, they are as follows (I am not mentioning their names here):

S
R1
R2 = G1
R3 = G2
G3
M1
M2
P
D1
D2 = N1
D3 = N2
N3

As you can see, the 16 notes do not have distinct positions. In terms of their pitch, R2 is the same as G1, D2 is the same as N1, etc.

Aside: note that some restrictions clearly have to be placed. Since a ragam must not have a rishabham and a g?ndharam both of the same pitch, if R2 occurs in the r?gam, then G1 will not occur, and vice-versa. Similarly for the other overlaps. Moreover, the g?ndharam cannot have a lower pitch than the rishabham, so if R3 occurs in a r?gam, then G1 cannot occur. Again, similar restrictions apply to the dhaivatam and nish?dam.

Now, to answer the main question, the equivalence between the two systems of notation shows that the notes

S, R2, G2, M1, P, D1 and N2

correspond to

Sa, Shuddha Re, Komal Ga, Shuddha Ma, Pa, Komal Dha and Komal Ni

Warning: if you see someone notating the swar?s using subscripts, as in the linked video, then know that a priori they could be using either the 12-note system or the 16-note system. So, things can get confusing because, for instance, G2 means two different things in the two systems! Also know that the 12-note system is sometimes used in Carnatic music as well, so just knowing that a piece in Carnatic music is being notated is not enough to be sure which of the two notation systems is being used.

A good place to start if you want to know more about the notations used for swar?s in Indian classical music is the Wikipedia article on swar?s.


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Hindustani musicians name pitches using a system called Sargam, the equivalent of the Western movable do solfege:

Sa (?a?ja ????) = Do
Re (Rishabh ???) = Re
Ga (Gandh?r ???????) = Mi
Ma (Madhyam ?????) = Fa
Pa (Pancham ?????) = So
Dha (Dhaivat ????) = La
Ni (Nish?d ?????) = Ti
Sa (?a?ja ????) = Do

Both systems repeat at the octave. The difference between sargam and solfege is that re, ga, ma, dha, and ni can refer to either "Natural" (shuddha) or altered "Flat" (komal) or "Sharp" (teevra) versions of their respective scale degrees.

Source, info: Hindustani classical music - Wikipedia.

About the numbers: There are three main octaves: low (mandra), medium (madhya) and high (t?ra). It is about the pitch notation of the flute, as the flute can be in any of these voices, see about pitch here. Also see this fingering chart, where you can better see the pitches.

Hope this helps you, because indeed is a beautiful sound the one this instrument makes.

Here's a video explaining difference between Bansuri and Venu:


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