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Hoots : Does C° also indicate a major seventh chord? I had always thought that this notation indicated a major seventh chord: [C°]. At least it seemed to make sense that way in some of the chord sheets I have used in the past. - freshhoot.com

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Does C° also indicate a major seventh chord?
I had always thought that this notation indicated a major seventh chord: [C°]. At least it seemed to make sense that way in some of the chord sheets I have used in the past.

I am now finding that it more commonly seems to represent a diminished chord, as in [Ab°(b13)] or [A flat dim flat 13]. My first question is has anyone here ever seen [°] used to represent a major seventh, or am I labouring under an illusion ;-)


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I had always thought that this notation indicated a major seventh chord: [C°]. At least it seemed to make sense that way in some of the chord sheets I have used in the past.

This must have been an error. As Cmaj7 is a static chord (or eventuell would lead to F) it couldn't be substituted by C°, while latter might have a dominant function to Db, (or E, G and Bb) and certainly can't be replaced by Cmaj7.

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As the other answers confirm C°7 was never meaning C major 7.`

I've edited the last words ... was never a major 7 as someone could understand A-major 7 ( a was meant as article not as chord).


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I have never ever seen "o" denoting a major 7 chord. A triangle can be used for maj7 in some books (e.g. the Aebersold play alongs), and 'o' is always diminished.

You may also encounter a slashed cirle (ø) for half diminished (min7 b5) chords.


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While answers are correct that C° means C diminished and C? means CMaj7, there is more to the story here. In jazz, C° is a very common delayed resolution to CMaj7. For example, in a simple ii-V-I:

| Dmin | G7 | CMaj7 | CMaj7 |

it's very common to hear pianists harmonize this with:

| Dmin | G7 | C°7 CMaj7 | CMaj7 |

In this context, the scale typically used over C°7 is C whole-half (enharmonically, C D E? F G? A? A? B). This diminished scale contains the BMaj triad, which resolves up a half step to a CMaj triad when we reach the CMaj7 chord. However, while the C°7 can be voiced with a BMaj triad, this isn't necessarily and isn't always done in jazz. We can simply voice the C°7 chord in its typical fashion.

This isn't all that different from a common-tone diminished 7th chord, which resolves iio7 to IMaj (for example, D?o7 to CMaj). After all, D?o7 has the same notes as Co7. But in a jazz context, the bass is often still playing the I, establishing the progress as io7 - IMaj7.

Lead sheets may show this io7 chord written into the bar, or they may show it above the bar in parentheses to indicate that it's a possible chord substitution. Or, it may not be shown at all, in which case the musician(s) are choosing to add this substitution into the music on the fly.


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If you're playing from sheet music that's been handwritten, or perhaps photocopied multiple times, it's not uncommon for the small △ symbol, which denotes Maj7 to end up looking like small circle °, which, as you say, denotes Diminished.

Or if the copyist isn't particularly careful, the circle and triangle can end up looking similar.


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Never. C° is always C diminished. C major seventh can be signed with a triangle after the C. Bear in mind that half-diminished is signified by a circle with a diagonal line through it.

Cmaj7 is C E G B.

C°7 is C E♭ G♭ B♭♭.

C half dim. is C E♭ G♭ B♭. Note: they all contain C E G B something.


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o a degree sign for diminished triad or o7 for diminished seventh chords.

ø7 for half-diminished seventh chords.

?7 a delta or triangle for major seventh chords.

Other signs are used capital M for major or lower case m for minor, etc.

You may have been mistaking the delta for a diminished sign.


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