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How to notate a tuplet with a non-tuplet at the same time on one staff?
I'm writing a violin quartet and am currently writing the melody of a solo part in the piece, and I stumbled upon a technical problem.

So basically I want to write these two figures (The duplet and the eight note on the 3rd beat) as one:

So that it'll sound like:

But written as one figure. Can anyone help me out? :)


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I don't think people will know how to play Neal's answer. They'll just play a portamento or even skip the Db all together, since they can't let the Db ring out anyway. Theoretically if this is a divisi part it's possible, but you'll never find anybody able to play it exactly as written, i.e. it'll just sound like a double-stop.

If you definitely want a hint of the Db to be heard, I'd go for a acciaccatura, which IMO conveys better what you want to achieve:

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Depending on the tempo of course, this will still be played as a portamento, I think, since anything else seems humanly impossible.


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Are two separate "voices" out of the question? If not, couldn't you use:

I'm no string player, but wouldn't this (for a moment) imply that the D-flat and C are sounding together? Isn't that, well... restrictively difficult?
If what you want to hear, as you state it, is something like that, would a different notation suffice?


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