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Hoots : Authorship of Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565 An earlier question mentions the disputed authorship of Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565. Several musicologists allege that the work has stylistic elements - freshhoot.com

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Authorship of Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565
An earlier question mentions the disputed authorship of Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565. Several musicologists allege that the work has stylistic elements that are problematic for the period in which it was supposedly written, while others present various explanations justifying the unusual traits, and still others appear not to take the authorship question seriously.

What’s the scholarly consensus here? How serious is the BWV 565 authorship question? Is it just a curiosity, or does it have any significant ramifications for musicology?


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On the other hand, the earliest known copy was not in Bach's hand, nor is the composer listed. It is full of Italian musical directions and articulation marks that are completely uncharacteristic of Bach. It was first attributed to Bach in a collection of organ works prepared by Felix Mendelssohn — but we don't know why he made the attribution. It was in his repertoire and he simply liked it. In other words, while you can't disprove Bach's authorship, you can't prove it either. There is no hard evidence either way.

It is a lovely piece, whoever wrote it.


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Generally speaking, a minority of Bach scholars question the piece's attribution. Christoph Wolf, who is for many the top Bach authority does not question the piece's attribution at all.

For what it's worth, the mark's against Bach's authorship can mostly be explained away. There is no direct evidence against his authorship, unlike some other works where the authorship is more easily disputed.

Just to take two:

Parallel octaves throughout the opening of the toccata

Writing Parallel octaves, while strictly forbidden in counterpoint is a very natural thing to do on an organ, especially if youre options for registration are limited. Essentially, to make the organ play louder a composer would have to write harmonies with more notes. Bach wrote many pieces to demonstrate how loud, and powerful the organs he was using were.

True subdominant answers in the fugue

This is perfectly normal in Bach's work, and was known before Bach's time. Buxtehude did this.

There are many theories for why the piece is so different (it was written for Violin, or by a younger, more improvisatory Bach)

Compared to other pieces accused of being misattributed, for instance the Albinoni Adagio in G minor (which is certainly forged), there is little direct evidence to prove or disprove Bach's authorship. Just criticism of style.

This forum thread has some interesting discussion on the topic: classicalmusicmayhem.freeforums.org/bach-attrib-toccata-fugue-in-d-minor-bwv-565-t1818-30.html
As of today, no one has definitively proven it wasn't Bach.


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